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Push to complete a Gargant list - 2019

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 11:30 pm 
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Ok feedback,
Today i have taken the gargants to stomp. It has been really funny.
My list.

Great gargant with ultralobba, twin soopagun and supa zapp gun
With antiair upgrade

2 gargants with megalobba, supa zaap gun and soopagun

Supastompa with 3 soopaguns
supastompa with 3 gatling kannons

4 stompas.

1ist game, versus also in development tallarn list.

The gargants are killing machines, the level of artillery was well, funny to see, every game I had 3 Imperial guard formations completely demoralize.
I seriously felt the lack of planes, (but I already expect that)
I was extremely frustrating for the imperial player, as i was insanely lucky with the saves, in 3 turn he eliminate all the shields, but yet only achieved 2 Wound on a superstompa. But well, apart from the luck, that is a lack of antititans of talland list. (Not a topic here)

Second mach, against adeptus tianicus.
Yea, gargants vs titans.

The game was, surprisingly close. The game last 6 insane turns, gargants started wining as there where a lot of warhounds, and well, warhounds are pretty volatile.
I demoralized and latter lynch the one reaver that was there by mere assault of thegreat gargant. Surprinsily, sooting was quite tricky.
By turn 3 I was winning by a huge diferent, but yet a titan killer warlord was completly fresh, and i got fire on one gargant and the gfreat gargant.
Funny enough that gargant would burn to the ashed by turn 3 XD XD XD I would be mad If I didn't laugh so much.

Conclusion on this point, soopaguns are not the best, But yet, as I said, pretty close, so zero complains in this regard.
Gargants face titans without any problem. So no problem on this regard.

I will let it rest and think on suggestions, but overall the list have my total personal approval.
we will see next month as I will see shasdowsords everywhere.

The great gargant is close to be unkillable, it is more or less ok shooting for the cost, and a beast in assaults.
The gargant is way more killable, god shooting and great in pair with a supastompa.
The supastompa is awesome, as good as a gargant shoooting, but way less resistant and surprisingly easy to be demoralize. but not the worst deal when you have courage.
The stompas have done nothing, I will have to check but i may reconsider using them in future list. Anyway I will try to give them I try. But in my opinion the are quite expensive for the cost, specially compared with the supastompa.

Anyway, next list wiht have planes and dreadnoughts, so we will see.

I will suggest more upgrades for the gargants and stompas, as well we have a lack of them. Plus potenciatly a mekboy gargant. But that would be just an attemp to make the list more interesting and atractive. For the moment the list is quite a good one. I think.


Anyways I will figure out tomorrow who to post the photos of my gargants terrorizing talllarn people and crushing their heads towards adeptus titanicus.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:53 am 
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got a game in with the list last night Much Fun was had by all :)

Still wish the list had lootas but there you go....

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:47 pm 
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As pointed out by Glyn earlier in the thread, the Gatling Kannon used to be available for Great Gargants in the arm slot, so I'd propose adding one extra weapon choice:

Ultra Gatling Kannon
Location Arm
Range 45cm

8x AP5+ / AT5+ FF Arm


(Basically, the normal GK, with +2 shots). Shouldn't be too terrifying.

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:52 pm 
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Increased DC option will be dropped the next time I update the list.

I would just have a gatling option rather than ultra.

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 3:02 pm 
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I'm fine with the DC option going entirely. Fiddly to make it not an auto-buy or a never-buy, while also scaling in utility against the different WE sizes.

Standard Gatling inferior to the other GG arm weapons on stats as current, not worth taking surely?

I appreciate it's a late consideration to a largely settled list now!

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I'd rather see a bit more granularity in the weapon loadouts for the different classes of gargant/stompa, maybe remove the gatling kannon and grot missile options from the supa stompa?

I think the DC upgrade isn't too potent if limited to gargants/great gargants only, they already have bags of DC, a couple more isn't going to ruin the list (725pts for a 9-11DC gargant isn't too painful), whereas potentially having multiple 7DC war engines for 375pts each is a much harder pill to swallow

I'm just concerned that with all the streamlining of options from the older list, a lot of the character will be lost

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:50 am 
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Great Gargants had gatling arm weapons in past editions (and likely will have them as an option again if/when AT versions come out). Why unnecessarily invalidate weapons fits of older player’s models that could be glued together and painted? If the Great Gargant has 5 better versions of Gargant weapons for its arms it’s not that much of a stretch to add one more to complete the set surely?

What’s not orky about rolling bucket loads of dice with poor to hit rolls? 8 x shots or maybe even 10 x shots at AT5+/AP5+ would balance better compared to the other Great Gargant arm weapons, particularly as they have a lower 45cm range and will often be doubling or occasionally assaulting. I find the masses of MW boring with Ork Gargants and masses of less powerful gatling attacks seems more orky and more similar to how many of 40K ork units attack.


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