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 Post subject: Knight Crusade 1.0
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:45 pm 
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A variation on the Knight theme: Knights no longer defending their homeworld but on the offensive across the Imperium. In a nut shell I swapped Levy formations for standard IG, Wardens for Castigators, upped the ally fraction to 1/3 and added titans.

Castigator stats are based off comparing FW's stats for it with their Lancer stats, and then extrapolating from the EA Lancer stats. They were made 0-1 for fluff.

Sentinels were put in at 125 instead of 100 to help mitigate them solely being activation burners.

I'm using the playtest Errant prices in this list.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:22 am 
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I'll give it a try next time.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:29 am 
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I'm not 100% sure we need two Knights lists, even with the addition of Titans and a swap of wardens for castigators the rest seems just way to similar a list.

I like the addition of titans, I'd love to do a combined arms force and maybe bring the Lightning back, kind of miss it as it's a great model and seems to be getting phased out of all the lists


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Going back to the Knight theme thread, others were intersted in a Crusade list. As their numbers weren't as many as the PDF list I went with that first. With it approved I'm circling back to the crusade list now. If it doesn't get played, it doesn't get played, but I said I'd do it and here we are.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:02 am 
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Would there be any value in offering epic-ized versions of the Forgeworld Cerastus Lancer and the Acheron for the folks wanting more differentiation?

I could see the Acheron getting 30cm 2BP IC each, such that a three-strong formation would be roughly equivalent to two Inferno guns (or make it 1BP to tone them down, and promote a 4-6 strong Knight formation).

The Cerastus pattern Lancer would be a pain though; that shield doesn't really fit any of the existing rules conveniently.

The Acheron feels like it could be a real boost to the list with the capacity to murder lots of infantry in cover, alongside the Castigator.

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What are your thoughts on Lightnings Dave? Really itching to get mine out and use them?

Also I'd love to maybe see the newer Knights as well as the castigator, such as the:
Styrix
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I line this list!

Still think Crusaders/Castellans could be 1BP MW each and be costed at 350 but that is not specific for this list.

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Mard wrote:
What are your thoughts on Lightnings Dave? Really itching to get mine out and use them?

Also I'd love to maybe see the newer Knights as well as the castigator, such as the:
Styrix
Acheron
Magaera


No plans to include the Lightning. My plan for the list was just common guard formations and Knights working side by side.

I left the Acheron and Magaera out because they are ultra-rare and weapons of last resort, respectively. First noticed the Styix just now, no objection to including it, but there's no stats for it yet.

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Just a heads up, I'm playing around with the list for building today...
I'm finding it pretty hard to make much i see as competitive with some of the price increases on Errants and Custodians
I'll still attempt to playtest this list as it's here, just thought I'd let you know the thoughts at he moment.

Edit: I'm sure it'll be fine, I've just got to stop wanting everything in the list


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:23 pm 
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Yeah, let's go!

No customisable titans? At least Veteran Princeps and that like?


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Nope, that's what makes the AMTL list unique. All the lists with Titans for allies don't have that stuff.

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Yes, but Knights are a very close ally to mechanicus. And Scitarii have acces to them. So i vote for them to be included in the KC list.


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Would love to have the Cerastus Knights (Acheron/Castigator/Lancer) and Questoris Knights (Styrix/Magaera) added to the list for more variation.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:46 pm 
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For those wanting Cerastus Knights, have you considered looking at the Heresy Knight Crusade list? It can be found with the 30k Mechanicus lists.

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