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Points formula values for Orks

 Post subject: Points formula values for Orks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:55 am 
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Updated to most recent version of the formula (version 0.43).
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Model or Formation name _ V0.43 Cost _ vs 0.42 _ vs Gold

_ Ork models:
Freebooterz Kaptin _ 32.2 ____ 0 __ +27.2
Freebooterz Boyz: ___ 6.875 __ 0 ___ +1.875
Mekboy: ____________ 61.25 ___ 0 __ -38.75
Mega-Gargant Kaptin: 77.7 ____ 0 __ -22.3
Painboy: ___________ 48.65 ___ 0 __ -51.35
Runtherd: __________ 45.85 ___ 0 __ -29.15
Stormboy Kaptin: ___ 46.638 __ 0 __ +16.638
Warboss: __________ 101.68 ___ 0 ___ +1.675
Warlord: __________ 132.13 ___ 0 __ -67.875
Weirdboy: _________ 248.91 ___ 0 _ +475.63
Weirdboy Minder: ____ 9.9 ____ 0 __ -15.1

Bad Moon Boyz: ____ 15.18 ___ 0 ___ -9.82
Blood Axe Boyz: ____ 9.9 ____ 0 __ -15.1
BA Kommando Kaptin: 45.99 ___ 0 ___ -9.01
BA Kommando: ______ 17.134 __ 0 __ -12.866
Deathskull Boyz: ___ 9.9 ____ 0 __ -15.1
Deathskull Shoota:_ 26.84 ___ 0 __ -23.16
Evil Sunz Boyz: ____ 9.9 ____ 0 __ -15.1
Goff Boyz: ________ 12.98 ___ 0 __ -12.02
Gretchin: __________ 5.368 __ 0 ___ -0.882
Madboyz: __________ 15.75 ___ 0 __ +10.75
Nobz: _____________ 95.9 ____ 0 __ +45.9
Riggerz: __________ 18.55 ___ 0 __ +18.55
Snakebite Boyz: ___ 11.44 ___ 0 __ -13.56
Stormboyz: ________ 15.813 __ 0 __ -14.188
Wildboyz: _________ 10.34 ___ 0 ___ -8.41

Bikeboyz: ______ 28.754 __ 0 ___ +8.754
Nobz Warbike: _ 147 ______ 0 _ +107
Boarboyz SN: ___ 23.474 __ 0 ___ +3.474

Killer Dreadnought: _______ 21.12 __ 0 __ -3.88
Dreadnought, Onslaughter: _ 37.84 __ 0 _ -12.16
Tinbot MK: ________________ 33.88 __ 0 __ +3.88

Battlewagon: __________________ 31.68 ____ 0 ______ -3.32
Battlewagon Blastakannon: _____ 75.95 ____ 0 _____ +40.95
Battlewagon Double Kannon: ____ 64.4 _____ 0 _____ +29.4
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: _ 73.115 __ +8.505 _ +38.115
Bonebreaka: ___________________ 54.12 ____ 0 ______ +4.12
Bonecruncha: __________________ 49.28 ____ 0 ______ -0.72
Bowelburna ES: ________________ 67.65 ____ 0 _____ +34.35
Braincrusha: __________________ 43.34 ____ 0 _____ -41.66
Copter: _______________________ 47.5 _____ 0 _____ +17.5
Cyberwyvern SN: _______________ 49.17 ____ 0 _____ +19.17
Doomdiver MagnaKannon MK: _____ 54.736 __ -4.224 __ +4.736
Flakwagon MK: _________________ 37.4 _____ 0 _____ -12.6
Gobsmasha ES: _________________ 17.38 ____ 0 ______ -2.62
Gutrippa G: ___________________ 44 _______ 0 ______ +9
Land Raider BA: _______________ 56.111 ___ 0 ______ -8.889
Lungbursta G: _________________ 39.38 ____ 0 ______ +4.38
Rhino BA: _____________________ 25.201 ___ 0 _____ +10.201
Scorcha: ______________________ 30.36 ____ 0 _____ +15.36
Spleenrippa ES: _______________ 29.04 ____ 0 _____ -12.627
Squiggoth: ____________________ 45.1 _____ 0 ______ -4.9
Trukk: ________________________ 25.311 ___ 0 ______ +5.311
Warbuggy: _____________________ 28.6 _____ 0 ______ +8.6
Wartrak: ______________________ 26.18 ____ 0 ______ +6.18
Weirdboy Battletower BM: _____ 403.26 _ +217.81 _ +203.26

Bubble Chukka Speedsta: ______ 47.667 __ +7.627 _ -52.333
Destrukta Rokkits Speedsta: __ 65.384 __ +9.504 _ -34.616
Dragsta: _____________________ 79.2 _____ 0 _____ -20.8
Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ______ 87.032 __ -6.27 __ -12.968
Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: _______ 74.58 __ +19.8 ___ -25.42

Field Gun / Hop Splat: _ 22.704 __ +5.346 __ -7.296
Lobba: _________________ 33.176 _ +24.948 _ +13.176
Shokk Attack Gun MK: ___ 14.74 ___ -6.864 _ -10.26
Zzap Gun: _______________ 8.8 _____ 0 _____ -11.2

Pulsa Rokkit MK: __ 18.687 _ -28.74 _ -66.313
Squig Katapult: ___ 25.238 __ -2.218 _ -9.7616
Soopa Gun MK: ____ 148.5 _____ 0 _____ -1.5
Traktor Kannon: ___ 12.54 ____ 0 _____ -2.46

Blasta Bomma: _________ 354.55 __ -13.4 ___ -145.45
Bomma: ________________ 106.21 ___ +0.6457 __ +6.2057
Fighta-Bomma MK: ______ 156.09 ___ +0.3203 _ +92.09
Landa: _________________ 79.221 _ +10.455 __ -10.324
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit __ 88.304 ___ 0 ______ +38.304

Gibletgrinda: _____________ 191.1 ____ 0 ______ +91.1 [Transport 5: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: _ 188.87 __ -8.314 _ -211.13
Mega-Squiggoth: ___________ 207.59 _ +35.642 __ -42.408
Skullhamma: _______________ 139.04 ___ 0 ______ +39.038 [Transport 5: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Stompa: ___________________ 109.09 ___ 0 ______ +24.094
Super Stompa: _____________ 152.83 ___ 0 _____ -147.17

Mekboy Gargant hull: _ 260.98 ____ 0 ___ -189
Slasha Gargant hull: _ 310.48 ____ 0 ____ +10.478
Great Gargant hull: __ 356.9 _____ 0 ____ -43.098
Mega-Gargant: ________ 854.23 _ -830.9 _ -545.77

Note that Mekboy Gargants now must purchase two arm weapons instead of having a fixed cost. See below for list.

Formations
_ Company
Bad Moon Clan: ___ 497 __ +92 __ -103
Blood Axe Clan: __ 528 __ +75 ___ -72
Deathskull Clan: _ 490 _ +132 ___ -10
Evil Sunz Clan: __ 491 __ +95 __ -109
Goff Clan: _______ 918 _ +252 __ +268
Snakebite Clan: __ 507 __ +68 ___ -93
Kult of Speed: ___ 788 __ +85 __ +388
Wildboyz Horde: __ 445 __ +83 ___ +45
Mega-Gargant: ____ 854 _ -831 __ -546

_ Special
Blasta Bomma: ______________ 355 ___ -13 _ -145
Freebooterz: ________________ 51 ____ +9 ___ +1
Gretchin Horde: _____________ 32 ____ +9 __ -18
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: __ 202 ____ -5 _ -198
Landa Mob: _________________ 341 ___ -55 _ -109
Mekboy: _____________________ 70 ____ -6 __ -30
Painboy: ____________________ 57 ____ -6 __ -43
Renegade Mekboyz: varies, any 8 of
_ Bubble Chukka: _______________ 36 _ +15
_ Destruckta Rokkits Speedsta: _ 49 _ +20
_ Dragsta: _____________________ 59 _ +17
_ Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ______ 65 _ +16
_ Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: _______ 56 _ +27
Runtherd: ___________________ 46 _____ 0 __ -29
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit Mob: _ 353 _____ 0 _ +153
Warboss: ___________________ 485 ___ +18 _ +235
Warlord & Stompa: __________ 769 ___ +39 _ +269
Weirdboy & Minderz: ________ 580 __ +328 _ +430
Mekboy Gargant hull: _______ 261 _____ 0 _ -189 +2 weapons
Slasha Gargant hull: _______ 310 _____ 0 __ +10 +2 weapons
Great Gargant hull: ________ 357 _____ 0 __ -43 +2 weapons & Head?
Gargant Big Mob: varies

any Warboss or Warlord formation may upgrade their Battlewagons to:
Battlewagon Blastakannon: _____ +66 __ +2
Battlewagon Double Kannon: ____ +49 __ +2
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: _ +62 _ +14


_ Support
Extra Bad Moon Boyz: ___ 46 __ +14 __ -54
Extra Blood Axe Boyz: __ 30 ___ +9 __ -70
Extra Deathskull Boyz: _ 30 ___ +9 __ -70
Extra Evil Sunz [3B,1BW] 51 __ +12 __ -49
Extra Evil Sunz Boyz[4B] 30 ___ +9 __ -70
Extra Goff Boyz: _______ 39 __ +12 __ -61
Extra Snakebite Boyz: __ 34 __ +10 __ -66
Extra Nobz: ___________ 288 __ +10 __ +88
BA Kommandos: __________ 94 __ +28 __ -81
DS Shoota: _____________ 81 __ +25 _ -119
Gretchin Mob: __________ 16 ___ +5 __ +16
Madmob: ________________ 47 __ +12 __ +47
Stormboyz Korps: _______ 91 __ +38 __ -59
Wildmob: _______________ 31 ___ +9 __ -44

Bikeboyz Mob: ____ 109 _ +23 ___ +9
ES Nobz Warbike: _ 559 ___ 0 _ +359
Sn Boarboyz Mob: __ 89 _ +19 __ -11

Killa Kan Mob: ____ 63 _ +19 __ -37
Onslaughter Mob: _ 114 _ +35 __ -86
Tinbot Mob: ______ 129 ___ 0 __ -21

BM Weirdboy Battletower: _ 403 _ +218 _ +203
Battlewagon: ______________ 74 __ +12 __ -26
BA Land Raider: __________ 131 __ +21 __ -69
BA Rhino: _________________ 59 ___ +9 ___ +9
Bonebreaka: ______________ 126 __ +20 __ -24
Bonecruncha: _____________ 115 __ +18 __ -35
Braincrusha: _____________ 101 __ +16 _ -149
Copter: __________________ 181 __ +38 __ +31
Doomdiver AA: _____________ 55 ___ -4 ___ +5
ES Bowelburna: ___________ 158 __ +25 __ +58
ES Gobsmasha: _____________ 66 __ +14 __ -34
ES Spleenrippa: ___________ 68 __ +11 __ -57
Flakwagon AA: _____________ 87 __ +14 __ -63
Gf Gutrippa: _____________ 103 __ +16 ___ +3
Gf Lungbursta: ____________ 92 __ +15 ___ -8
Scorcha: __________________ 71 __ +11 __ +21
Sn Cyberwyvern: __________ 187 __ +39 __ +37
Sn Squiggoth: ____________ 105 __ +16 __ -45
Trukk: ____________________ 96 __ +20 ___ -4
Warbuggy: ________________ 109 __ +23 ___ +9
Wartrak: __________________ 99 __ +20 ___ -1

MK Bubble Chukka: _____________ 48 __ +8 __ -52
MK Destrukta Rokkit Speedsta: _ 65 __ +9 __ -35
MK Dragsta: ___________________ 79 ___ 0 __ -21
MK Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ____ 87 __ -6 __ -13
MK Lifta-Droppa: ______________ 75 _ +20 __ -25

Hop-Splat: ________ 86 __ +34 __ -66
Lobba: ___________ 126 _ +101 __ +26
Skokk Attack Gun: _ 44 ___ -1 __ -56
Zzap Gun: _________ 33 ___ +7 __ -67

Pulsa Rokkit: ______ 44 __ -49 _ -206
Sn Squig Katapult: _ 59 ___ +5 __ -41
Soopa Gun: ________ 149 ____ 0 ___ -1
Traktor Kannon: ____ 48 __ +10 __ -27

Bomma: _________________ 248 __ +40 __ -52
Fighta-Bomma: __________ 367 __ +59 _ +167
Landa: __________________ 90 __ +11 __ -10
Supa Rokkit Trans'ort: __ 88 ____ 0 __ +38

Gibletgrinda: ___ 191 ___ 0 __ +91
Mega-Squiggoth: _ 208 _ +36 __ -42
Skullhamma: _____ 139 ___ 0 __ +39
Stompaz: ________ 255 __ -3 ___ +5
Supa Stompa: ____ 153 ___ 0 _ -147

_ Mekboy Gargant Weapons:
Buzz Saw Arm: ________ 32 __ 0 __ +32
Krusher Arm: _________ 11 __ 0 __ +11
Kustom Kannon: _______ 68 _ -4 __ +68
Super-Lifta Droppa: _ 130 __ 0 _ +130

_ Gargant Weapons: ___ uses _ base (OT)
Battle Cannon Head _____ G ____ 60 (75) _ +21 (+27) ___ -5
Battle Cannon Turret ___ G ____ 14 (18) ___ 0 _ (0) __ -11
Cluster Buster _________ S ____ 27 ______ +10 ________ -38
Deth Kannon ____________ S ___ 103 ________ 0 ________ +18
Flak Kannon ____________ G,S __ 13 ________ 0 ________ -22
Flak Kannon ___ G Head Turret _ 26 ________ 0 _________ -9
Gatling Cannon _________ G ____ 52 (64) ___ 0 _ (0) __ -23
Gork Head Traktor Kannon G,S __ 97(122) _ +45 (+58) __ +47
Gutbuster, Augmented ___ G ____ 44 (55) _ -66 (-83) _ -106
Gutbuster ______________ G,S __ 27 (34) _ -50 (-63) __ -73
Magna Kannon ___________ G,S __ 83(104) _ -217(-282)__ +33
Magna Kannon _ G Head Turret _ 166(208) _ -143(-178)_ +116
Magnum Mega-Cannon _____ G ____ 34 (43) __ +4_ (+5) __ -51
Mork Head with Scorcher_ G,S __ 52 (66) __ +6_ (+9) ___ +2
Observation Turret _____ G _____ 0 but alters cost of other weapons
Ripper Fist ____________ G,S __ 33 ________ 0 ________ -32
Scorcher Turret ________ G ____ 14 (17) ___ 0 _ (0) ___ -1
Slasha Attack Gun ______ S ____ 72 ________ 0 _________ -3
Snapper ________________ G,S __ 86 ______ -76 ________ +61
Super Lifta-Droppa _____ G ___ 130 (163) __ 0 _ (0) __ +55

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
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Sweet!

I guess you've answered the question on which ones are done, so I guess I will start with the eldar and post them. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:31 am 
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Revised points for Transport costs, fixed a couple of minor errors, and finished Gargants.
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Model: New value (NEG)
_ Ork models:
Freebooterz Kaptin: 28 (0)
Freebooterz Boyz: 4 (0)
Mekboy: 54 (100)
Mega-Gargant Kaptin: 72
Painboy: 42 (100)
Runtherd: 41 (75)
Stormboy Kaptin: 39.5 (~30)
Warboss: 92 (100)
Warlord: 122 (200)
Weirdboy: 374 (100)
Weirdboy Minder: 14 (25)

Bad Moon Boyz: 22 (25)
Blood Axe Boyz: 14 (25)
Blood Axe Kommando Kaptin: 58 (55)
Blood Axe Kommando: 42 (30)
Deathskull Boyz: 14 (25)
Deathskull Shoota: 38 (50)
Evil Sunz Boyz: 14 (25)
Goff Boyz: 22 (25)
Gretchin: 3.8 (6.25)
Madboyz: 14 (0)
Nobz: 86 (50)
Riggerz: 15
Snakebite Boyz: 18 (25)
Stormboyz: 19.5 (25)
Wildboyz: 18 (18.75)

Bikeboyz: 26.7 (20)
Nobz Warbike: 86 (40)
Boarboyz SN: 26.7 (20)

Killer Dreadnought: 32 (25)
Dreadnought, Onslaughter: 60 (50)
Tinbot MK: 38 (30)

Battlewagon: 36 (35) [carries 3 Infantry/LA]
Battlewagon Blastakannon: 71.5 (35) [carries 3 Command Infantry]
Battlewagon Double Kannon: 55 (35) [carries 3 Command Infantry]
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: 85 (35) [carries 3 Command Infantry]
Bonebreaka: 73 (50)
Bonecruncha: 62 (50)
Bowelburna ES: 74.63 (33.3)
Braincrusha: 82 (85)
Copter: 48 (30)
Cyberwyvern SN: 62 (30)
Doomdiver MagnaKannon MK: 116 (50)
Flakwagon MK: 58 (50)
Gobsmasha ES: 22 (20)
Gutrippa G: 58 (35)
Land Raider BA: 84.03 (65) [carries 2 Infantry/LA or 1 Walker]
Lungbursta G: 64 (35)
Rhino BA: 31.03 (15) [carries 2 Infantry/LA or 1 Walker]
Scorcha: 31.25 (15)
Spleenrippa ES: 47 (41.67)
Squiggoth: 68 (50)
Trukk: 29.03 (20) [carries 2 Infantry/LA or 1 Walker, OTV]
Warbuggy: 24 (20) [carries 1 Infantry/LA]
Wartrak: 26 (20) [carries 1 Infantry/LA]
Weirdboy Battletower BM: 394 (200)

Bubble Chukka Speedsta: 44.8 (100)
Destrukta Rokkits Speedsta: 91.8 (100)
Dragsta: 82.8 (100)
Kustom Kannon Speedsta: 114.3 (100)
Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: 83.8 (100)

Field Gun / Hop Splat: 27 (30)
Lobba: 18 (20)
Shokk Attack Gun MK: 28.4 (25)
Zzap Gun: 9 (20)

Pulsa Rokkit MK: 98 (85)
Squig Katapult: 34.8 (35)
Soopa Gun MK: 256 (150)
Traktor Kannon: 18 (15)

Blasta Bomma: 524.6 (500)
Bomma: 168 (100)
Fighta-Bomma MK: 187 (65)
Landa: 148 (100) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker]
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit: 79.6 (50) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker]

Gibletgrinda: 182 (100) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker]
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: 207 (400)
Mega-Squiggoth: 468 (250) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker, OTV]
Skullhamma: 145 (100) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker]
Stompa: 136.2 (85)
Super Stompa: 190.2 (300)

Mekboy Gargant hull: 240
Slasha Gargant hull: 322.5
Great Gargant hull: 473.5
Mega-Gargant: 1578

Note that Mekboy Gargants now must purchase two arm weapons instead of having a fixed cost. See below for list.

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
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Many thanks!

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added details of Transport options used to list above.

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Formations (default BP 100%)
_ Company
Bad Moon Clan: 365
Blood Axe Clan: 375
Deathskull Clan: 315
Evil Sunz Clan: 340
Goff Clan: 590
Snakebite Clan: 375
Kult of Speed: 390
Wildboyz Horde: 430
Mega-Gargant: 1990

_ Special
Blasta Bomma: 590
Freebooterz: 25
Gretchin Horde: 10
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: 210
Landa Mob: 645
Mekboy: 60
Painboy: 50
Renegade Mekboyz: varies, any 8 of
_ Bubble Chukka: 35 each
_ Destruckta Rokkits Speedsta: 75 each
_ Dragsta: 65 each
_ Kustom Kannon Speedsta: 90 each
_ Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: 65 each
Runtherd: 45
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit Mob: 355
Warboss: 460
Warlord & Stompa: 765
Weirdboy & Minderz: 265
Mekboy Gargant hull: 270 +2 weapons
Slasha Gargant hull: 360 +2 weapons
Great Gargant hull: 530 +2 weapons
Gargant Big Mob: varies

any Warboss or Warlord formation may upgrade to:
Battlewagon Blastakannon: +50
Battlewagon Double Kannon: +25
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: +70


_ Support
Extra Bad Moon Boyz: 40
Extra Blood Axe Boyz: 25
Extra Deathskull Boyz: 25
Extra Evil Sunz: 35 [3 Boyz, 1 Battlewagon]
Extra Evil Sunz Boyz: 25 [4 Boyz]
Extra Goff Boyz: 40
Extra Snakebite Boyz: 30
Extra Nobz: 240
BA Kommandos: 145
DS Shoota: 65
Gretchin Mob: 5
Madmob: 40
Stormboyz Korps: 80
Wildmob: 30

Bikeboyz Mob: 70
ES Nobz Warbike: 360
Sn Boarboyz Mob: 70

Killa Kan Mob: 55
Onslaughter Mob: 105
Tinbot Mob: 140

BM Weirdboy Battletower: 345
Battlewagon: 65
BA Land Raider: 145
BA Rhino: 55
Bonebreaka: 130
Bonecruncha: 110
Braincrusha: 145
Copter: 145
Doomdiver AA: 100
ES Bowelburna: 130
ES Gobsmasha: 60
ES Spleenrippa: 85
Flakwagon AA: 100
Gf Gutrippa: 100
Gf Lungbursta: 115
Scorcha: 55
Sn Cyberwyvern: 165
Sn Squiggoth: 120
Trukk: 75
Warbuggy: 65
Wartrak: 70

MK Bubble Chukka: 40
MK Destrukta Rokkit Speedsta: 80
MK Dragsta: 75
MK Kustom Kannon Speedsta: 100
MK Lifta-Droppa: 75

Hop-Splat: 70
Lobba: 50
Skokk Attack Gun: 50
Zzap Gun: 25

Pulsa Rokkit: 170
Sn Squig Katapult: 60
Soopa Gun: 280
Traktor Kannon: 45

Bomma: 325
Fighta-Bomma: 360
Landa: 145
Supa Rokkit Trans'ort: 100

Gibletgrinda: 255
Mega-Squiggoth: 410
Skullhamma: 205
Stompaz: 335
Supa Stompa: 235

_ Mekboy Gargant Weapons:
Buzz Saw Arm: 45
Krusher Arm: 5
Kustom Kannon: 125
Super-Lifta Droppa: 125

_ Gargant Weapons:
Battle Cannon Head . . . G . . .70
Battle Cannon Turret . . G . . .40
Cluster Buster . . . . . S . . .55
Deth Kannon . . . . . . .S . . 180
Flak Kannon . . . . . . .G,S . .45
Gatling Cannon . . . . . G . . .90
Gork Head Traktor Kannon G,S . .60
Gutbuster, Augmented . . G . . 165
Gutbuster . . . . . . . .G,S . 105
Magna Kannon . . . . . . G,S . 540
Magnum Mega-Cannon . . . G . . .80
Mork Head with Scorcher .G,S . .50
Observation Turret . . . G . . . ? (50)
Ripper Fist . . . . . . .G,S. . 65
Scorcher Turret . . . . .G. . . 25
Slasha Attack Gun . . . .S . . 125
Snapper . . . . . . . . .G,S . 170
Super Lifta-Droppa . . . G . . 125

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
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I like how relatively cheap orks are in regards to other armies with better (looser) command radius. You should be able to get a lot of them in comparison.

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I would suggest, if using this system, to not have any requirements on the composition of the Renegade Mekboyz Special Formation, as if someone really wants to take a lot of the better models, he'll be paying more to do so.

Also, I could not come up with a value for the Observation Turret Gargant 'weapon'. It gives all weapons fired a +1 to hit versus one specific chosen target. Thus it's value could vary from turn to turn depending on how many weapons were fired at the chosen target. Thus I cannot mathematically give it a value. Aside from just using it's old value (in parenthesis above), I just don't know.

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MagnusIlluminus wrote:
I would suggest, if using this system, to not have any requirements on the composition of the Renegade Mekboyz Special Formation, as if someone really wants to take a lot of the better models, he'll be paying more to do so.

Also, I could not come up with a value for the Observation Turret Gargant 'weapon'. It gives all weapons fired a +1 to hit versus one specific chosen target. Thus it's value could vary from turn to turn depending on how many weapons were fired at the chosen target. Thus I cannot mathematically give it a value. Aside from just using it's old value (in parenthesis above), I just don't know.


Hi!

Agreed. There are many restrictions in place solely because of the implicit unbalance of their cost. Using the formula, many of these need to be discarded or modified.

In case of the gargant observation turret, would assigning a flat multiplier added to each weapon in addition to the observation turret would suffice?

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It was easy with the Imperial version, as there each weapon gets +1 to hit regardless of what they are shooting at. That is very helpful. This one less so. I suppose I could go through the weapons and see what difference +1 to hit makes to their value and then use half that. On the other hand, if a player builds their Gargant with a OT, they are probably planning to focus their fire most of the time anyway. Hmm. Perhaps 75%. I'll have to poke at them later and see how that works out.

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:34 am 
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It was easy with the Imperial version, as there each weapon gets +1 to hit regardless of what they are shooting at. That is very helpful. This one less so. I suppose I could go through the weapons and see what difference +1 to hit makes to their value and then use half that. On the other hand, if a player builds their Gargant with a OT, they are probably planning to focus their fire most of the time anyway. Hmm. Perhaps 75%. I'll have to poke at them later and see how that works out.


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Sounds like a plan. :)

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I discovered that I had made an error when calculating many formation values for the Orks, so I adjusted appropriately and replaced the formation values in the post above with the fixed values. Note that many, but not all, formations are now slightly more expensive than they were before.

I also added one formation that I missed earlier.

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I discovered that I had made an error when calculating many formation values for the Orks, so I adjusted appropriately and replaced the formation values in the post above with the fixed values. Note that many, but not all, formations are now slightly more expensive than they were before.

I also added one formation that I missed earlier.


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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
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Model: New value post tweaks and Transport revision
_ Ork models:
Freebooterz Kaptin: _27
Freebooterz Boyz: ___ 2
Mekboy: ____________ 45
Mega-Gargant Kaptin: 57
Painboy: ___________ 42
Runtherd: __________ 41
Stormboy Kaptin: ___ 44
Warboss: ___________ 80
Warlord: __________ 102.5
Weirdboy: __________ 98.12
Weirdboy Minder: ___ 12

Bad Moon Boyz: ____ 14
Blood Axe Boyz: ___ 12
BA Kommando Kaptin: 59.5
BA Kommando: ______ 42
Deathskull Boyz: __ 12
Deathskull Shoota:_ 14
Evil Sunz Boyz: ___ 12
Goff Boyz: ________ 22
Gretchin: __________ 1.45
Madboyz: __________ 12
Nobz: _____________ 71
Riggerz: __________ 16
Snakebite Boyz: ___ 17
Stormboyz: ________ 20.5
Wildboyz: _________ 21

Bikeboyz: ______ 36.34
Nobz Warbike: _ 110
Boarboyz SN: ___ 32.34

Killer Dreadnought: _______ 26
Dreadnought, Onslaughter: _ 42
Tinbot MK: ________________ 33.5

Battlewagon: __________________ 37.5 [Transport 3: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Battlewagon Blastakannon: _____ 46.63 [Transport 3: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Battlewagon Double Kannon: ____ 42.5 [Transport 3: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: _ 63.5 [Transport 3: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Bonebreaka: ___________________ 60.75
Bonecruncha: __________________ 58
Bowelburna ES: ________________ 53.31
Braincrusha: __________________ 34
Copter: _______________________ 59
Cyberwyvern SN: _______________ 62
Doomdiver MagnaKannon MK: _____ 44
Flakwagon MK: _________________ 37
Gobsmasha ES: _________________ 19
Gutrippa G: ___________________ 52.5
Land Raider BA: _______________ 61.01 [Transport 2: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Lungbursta G: _________________ 39
Rhino BA: _____________________ 29.38 [Transport 2: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Scorcha: ______________________ 29.63
Spleenrippa ES: _______________ 26.75
Squiggoth: ____________________ 54.5
Trukk: ________________________ 37.01 [Transport 2: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Warbuggy: _____________________ 37.5 [Transport 1: LA1/0]
Wartrak: ______________________ 34 [Transport 1: LA1/0]
Weirdboy Battletower BM: _____ 121.1

Bubble Chukka Speedsta: _____ 50.6
Destrukta Rokkits Speedsta: _ 85.5
Dragsta: ____________________ 95.6
Kustom Kannon Speedsta: _____ 96.75
Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: ______ 56.85

Field Gun / Hop Splat: _ 9
Lobba: _________________ 3
Shokk Attack Gun MK: ___ 7.6
Zzap Gun: _____________ -6

Pulsa Rokkit MK: __ 56
Squig Katapult: ___ 32.2
Soopa Gun MK: _____ 76
Traktor Kannon: ____ 9

Blasta Bomma: _________ 515.3
Bomma: ________________ 147.5
Fighta-Bomma MK: ______ 225.3
Landa: _________________ 80 [Transport 7: I1/1, W1/2]
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit: _ 92.15 [Transport 5: I1/1, W1/2]

Gibletgrinda: _____________ 187.3 [Transport 5: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: _ 197.9
Mega-Squiggoth: ___________ 365.3
Skullhamma: _______________ 135.4 [Transport 5: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Stompa: ___________________ 124
Super Stompa: _____________ 167.1

Mekboy Gargant hull: _ 420
Slasha Gargant hull: _ 514.5
Great Gargant hull: __ 713.5
Mega-Gargant: _______ 1218

Note that Mekboy Gargants now must purchase two arm weapons instead of having a fixed cost. See

below for list.

Formations (default BP 100%)
_ Company
Bad Moon Clan: ___ 275
Blood Axe Clan: __ 330
Deathskull Clan: _ 265
Evil Sunz Clan: __ 305
Goff Clan: _______ 510
Snakebite Clan: __ 345
Kult of Speed: ___ 530
Wildboyz Horde: __ 430
Mega-Gargant: ___ 1535

_ Special
Blasta Bomma: ______________ 575
Freebooterz: ________________ 20
Gretchin Horde: ______________ 5
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: __ 200
Landa Mob: _________________ 350
Mekboy: _____________________ 50
Painboy: ____________________ 50
Renegade Mekboyz: varies, any 8 of
_ Bubble Chukka: _______________ 40 each
_ Destruckta Rokkits Speedsta: _ 70 each
_ Dragsta: _____________________ 75 each
_ Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ______ 75 each
_ Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: _______ 45 each
Runtherd: ___________________ 45
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit Mob: _ 410
Warboss: ___________________ 390
Warlord & Stompa: __________ 665
Weirdboy & Minderz: _________ 75
Mekboy Gargant hull: _______ 470 +2 weapons
Slasha Gargant hull: _______ 575 +2 weapons
Great Gargant hull: ________ 800 +2 weapons
Gargant Big Mob: varies

any Warboss or Warlord formation may upgrade to:
Battlewagon Blastakannon: _____ +15
Battlewagon Double Kannon: ____ +10
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: _ +40


_ Support
Extra Bad Moon Boyz: ___ 25
Extra Blood Axe Boyz: __ 20
Extra Deathskull Boyz: _ 20
Extra Evil Sunz: _______ 30 [3 Boyz, 1 Battlewagon]
Extra Evil Sunz Boyz: __ 20 [4 Boyz]
Extra Goff Boyz: _______ 40
Extra Snakebite Boyz: __ 30
Extra Nobz: ___________ 200
BA Kommandos: _________ 150
DS Shoota: _____________ 25
Gretchin Mob: ___________ 5
Madmob: ________________ 35
Stormboyz Korps: _______ 85
Wildmob: _______________ 35

Bikeboyz Mob: _____ 95
ES Nobz Warbike: _ 460
Sn Boarboyz Mob: __ 85

Killa Kan Mob: ___ 45
Onslaughter Mob: _ 75
Tinbot Mob: _____ 125

BM Weirdboy Battletower: _ 105
Battlewagon: ______________ 65
BA Land Raider: __________ 105
BA Rhino: _________________ 50
Bonebreaka: ______________ 105
Bonecruncha: _____________ 100
Braincrusha: ______________ 60
Copter: __________________ 175
Doomdiver AA: _____________ 40
ES Bowelburna: ____________ 95
ES Gobsmasha: _____________ 50
ES Spleenrippa: ___________ 45
Flakwagon AA: _____________ 65
Gf Gutrippa: ______________ 90
Gf Lungbursta: ____________ 70
Scorcha: __________________ 50
Sn Cyberwyvern: __________ 165
Sn Squiggoth: _____________ 95
Trukk: ___________________ 100
Warbuggy: ________________ 100
Wartrak: __________________ 90

MK Bubble Chukka: _____________ 45
MK Destrukta Rokkit Speedsta: _ 75
MK Dragsta: ___________________ 85
MK Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ____ 45
MK Lifta-Droppa: ______________ 25

Hop-Splat: ________ 25
Lobba: ____________ 10
Skokk Attack Gun: _ 15
Zzap Gun: __________ 0

Pulsa Rokkit: _____ 100
Sn Squig Katapult: _ 55
Soopa Gun: _________ 85
Traktor Kannon: ____ 25

Bomma: _________________ 285
Fighta-Bomma: __________ 435
Landa: __________________ 75
Supa Rokkit Trans'ort: _ 115

Gibletgrinda: ___ 260
Mega-Squiggoth: _ 320
Skullhamma: _____ 190
Stompaz: ________ 305
Supa Stompa: ____ 205

_ Mekboy Gargant Weapons:
Buzz Saw Arm: ________ 0
Krusher Arm: _________ 0
Kustom Kannon: ______ 30
Super-Lifta Droppa: _ 65

_ Gargant Weapons: ___ uses __ cost _ cost with Observation Turret
Battle Cannon Head _____ G ____ 15 ___ 15
Battle Cannon Turret ___ G _____ 5 ___ 10
Cluster Buster _________ S ____ 25
Deth Kannon ____________ S ____ 45
Flak Kannon ____________ G,S __ 10
Gatling Cannon _________ G ____ 20 ___ 30
Gork Head Traktor Kannon G,S __ 35 ___ 45
Gutbuster, Augmented ___ G ____ 55 ___ 70
Gutbuster ______________ G,S __ 40 ___ 55
Magna Kannon ___________ G,S _ 135 __ 170
Magnum Mega-Cannon _____ G ____ 30 ___ 35
Mork Head with Scorcher_ G,S __ 35 ___ 40
Observation Turret _____ G _____ 0 plus alters cost of other weapons
Ripper Fist ____________ G,S ___ 5
Scorcher Turret ________ G _____ 5 ____ 5
Slasha Attack Gun ______ S ____ 30
Snapper ________________ G,S _ 170
Super Lifta-Droppa _____ G ____ 65 ___ 80

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:16 pm 
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Updated cost of Battle Cannon turret for Gargant Weapon as per errata. All else is good.

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