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[OLD] Tyranid Reference Sheet v10

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:17 pm 
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Alright, here's the result of all the bio-statistic threads from the last couple of weeks. This is all-inclusive, any additions will be handled on a case-by-case basis. Let me know if you spot any typos.

Edit 2011/11/08: I've updated the ref sheet to include the Vitagon crit and reflect the Brood rule changes from the special rule's breakdown thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:27 pm 
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Meiotic spore range should be 30cm.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:29 pm 
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When was it changed from 15cm?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:34 pm 
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In leviathan :p

They should also have a better CC ability; they're a real menace in 40k, exploding in your face.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:36 pm 
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30cm move seems unusually high for the Scythed Hierodule? Is that a typo?


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It isn't, that's what Zombo wanted to go with.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:46 pm 
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Short answer: In 40k they're pretty much the quickest thing there is; quicker than a rhino for example, so if anything it's actually pretty conservative.

Long answer:

In 40k the Hierodules and 'phant move 12" basic (same as a rhino), then can trade weapon shots for extra movement. Thus a Scythed Hierodule moves a minimum of 12+d6" as it only has one weapon. If it doesn't fire the bio-acid it moves 12+2d6".

The Barbed 'dule and 'Phant have these rules too, but due to their heavier weapon loads I figure them less likely to trade shots for extra movement.

It also allows the Barbed and Scythed to remain at the same points cost as each other.

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 Post subject: Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:11 am 
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It's the same Agility rule as the Warhound and all Eldar Titans have.

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So Barbed should be 30cm too?


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Potentially, but it'd be worth more than the scythed if that was the case. It should probably go up to 25cm though.

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The DC value of Hierophant Bio-titan (990.M41) doesn't seem to match to either of the 745-type Bio-titan DC values. Was the generally accepted "classic Hierodule = modern Hierophant" naming convention dropped? Are we now supposed to have three diffrent sizes of Bio-titans?


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Given that a name change was inevitable due to the naming issue, and that Dave wanted a different weapon layout, and that the 40k stats for the modern Hierophant suggest higher than DC4, I decided we might as well split them entirely. I don't see it as a problem since they won't be in the same list together.

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The "old-stuff" list will use the 745 'dule and 'phant. The "new-stuff" list will use the barbed/scythed 'dule and 990 'phant. I don't think there's going to be a list with all of the versions in it, so proxying the old for the new or vice versa will work. I'd think you'd still only need two sizes of bio-titans.

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I've updated the ref sheet to include the Vitagon crit and reflect the Brood rule changes from the special rule's breakdown thread.

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Dave wrote:
The "old-stuff" list will use the 745 'dule and 'phant. The "new-stuff" list will use the barbed/scythed 'dule and 990 'phant. I don't think there's going to be a list with all of the versions in it, so proxying the old for the new or vice versa will work. I'd think you'd still only need two sizes of bio-titans.


Well the Bio-Titan list may end up using "3" but it would probably be the Barbed/Scythed Hierodules, the 990 Hierophant and an upgrade (+2DC). Model wise it would be the two metal versions (or scratchbuilds) and a gaunt scratchbuild.


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