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Eldar vs Imperial (SM 2nd ed Epic) 3K pts

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:13 pm 
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DNME wrote:
tactical companies do have their use but if your using troops as a screen seems a waste, as they should have a purpose or objective that gains points not just offers an easy target.


Oh they'll have other objectives, they just make up the expendable 1st wave.


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 Post subject: Re: Eldar vs Imperial (SM 2nd ed Epic) 3K pts
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:16 pm 
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Thought 75cm range for hydra, but 100cm so still looses 25cm for flyers flying high. Probably because i don't field them hardly


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:38 pm 
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I do like the Mech Tactical COis
1st of all I ilke the look and Style of them :D
if you take the Chimera variants(Chimerax Chimerro Chimedon)
you get a medium Tank COi and a Tactical Inf. COi
also one of those detachments can bear a heavily amount of fire
and your COi is fast now :)
combine the Chimeras with medium tanks
so the enemy has to split his fire


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:52 pm 
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Wouldn't class them as medium tanks as their range not great. But used with a heavy det they can make a better seize and hold unit with some close fire support and longer range hitting power from the heavy det.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:19 pm 
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okay they are medium class medium range (50cm) tanks ;D
I like them but they are nothing really powerfull


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:40 pm 
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I have a bunch of chimerax (they're the quad autocannon ones right?) one chimerro (the one with the auxiliary missile launcher IIRC) but no chimedons. Luckily my Capitol Imperialis arrived today, so I do have that. Shame the battle will be over by the time it gets anywhere near the front lines.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:21 pm 
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Capitol imperalus =useless IMHO should get some leviathans now they are worth the points and pack a punch


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:24 pm 
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DNME wrote:
Capitol imperalus =useless IMHO should get some leviathans now they are worth the points and pack a punch


I do have one, they're certainly better armed. I'm generally more of a collector than a player so I have a mission to collect one of everything, especially the rare stuff.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:41 pm 
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Good luck, certainly some stuff very hard to find. me i'm the opposite and like to play the game, wouldn't mind having a capitol imperalis but would never feild it lol


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:37 am 
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I am both collector and player
I do like to have one of every model or more
but I also like to use every model in game
especially rare models like Warmongers, Capitoli imperialis ;D


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 Post subject: Re: Eldar vs Imperial (SM 2nd ed Epic) 3K pts
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:30 pm 
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Yes, I do like to use the more unusual or nicer looking models, that's why I usually buy 2nd or 1st ed stuff rather than the modern equivalent wherever possible but sometimes the old stuff so expensive that you have to just get 1 or 2 and make up the numbers with newer models.

Going to have another 3K game this week. Will try to go for something a bit different with my army, tech guard and IG rather than marine based.

Was thinking maybe tech guard heavy or standard mechanised for the main infantry force. Super heavy company worthwhile? I have a couple of co's of all the different types. Artillery or rocket companies? Knight households? Hellhounds (I suppose they depend on what terrain you are using), Leman russ' (technically I can use predators as well)?
I can only really field detachment sized units when it comes to beastmen, ogryns and rough riders but I have loads of robots and sentinels. Some mole mortars and rapiers too.


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 Post subject: Re: Eldar vs Imperial (SM 2nd ed Epic) 3K pts
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:03 pm 
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sentinels good support units, and ogryns great (ig termies). 3k points would only have det of artillery or rockets, basilisk good if grouped. super heavy worth it prob best with Baneblades, but knights hoho defo they are kick arse if you can use them well, paladins +8 caf if they charge into battle, 4+ with a -2 gun and a shield that negates save modifiers and save on 3+.

attack
1 x mech company 700
1 x beastman det 200
2 x chimera det (put the beastmen in these and have a comissar with them or keep near mech co) 200
defence
1 x tg titan defence company 400
1 x basilisk det 200
1 x det ogryns 100
support
1 x knight household 550
1 x baneblade company 500
1 x yarrick 150 -- or 1 x robot det and 1 x det rapiers but yarrick worth it for morale

think the points right of the top of my head but think that has most of bits of troops you have and can try.
pm me i'll have a count of how many rough riders i have spare if you want to trade, may even have some ogryns too


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 Post subject: Re: Eldar vs Imperial (SM 2nd ed Epic) 3K pts
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:04 pm 
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The reason I tend to go for a company of arty is that he pretty much always fields a phantom titan and the barrage weapons are great for taking out the holo fields. I suppose a basilisk detachment does get 2 shots and the -2 save should deal with the lightly armoured wings...I just like to be sure when dealing with titans.

Also, I noticed no titans in there, would a Leviathan be a decent alternative?


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 Post subject: Re: Eldar vs Imperial (SM 2nd ed Epic) 3K pts
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:39 pm 
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Leviathan is good but if you loose it, its your whole chain of command up the spout for a whole turn.
Also only small armies that's why I suggested just det of artillery. I didn't select a titan either as 900 points fir a single warlord alot and could get more troops for that, plus the knights can gang up on the titan, even have them as a knight lancer household with power lance that fires before close combat, I have taken warlords out with 3 lancers as the reactor easy pickings.
Think your overcooking on his titan by using whole arty company. May be better to use several thunderhawks as air support or det of maurader fighter bombers as both have barrage weapons.


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 Post subject: Re: Eldar vs Imperial (SM 2nd ed Epic) 3K pts
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:04 am 
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I don't have any lancers, but I do have the ones with melta cannons and the 2 heavy support types. Are they worth fielding? the 2+ unmodified save if shot from the front is tempting, specially as they can hang back more to make it harder to get round the sides.
We probably won't be using aircraft this time, we're going to wait until he can get some firestorm models.


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