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Sector secure - Ork activity minimal

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:20 am 
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Tiny-Tim wrote:
helping to mitigate the poor assault range of the orks/ clipping assaults against – Yes this is a big point of the list and when done correctly is the bane of an Ork player.


Okay - perhaps I'm misunderstanding your position, but that seems like a flaw, not a feature. What exactly is this glaring weakness to clipping assaults meant to balance in the Ork lists? If you're going to lose every assault that you don't initiate, there had better be a damn good upside... I'm not seeing it.

To put it another way, what simple tactic or maneuver, "when done correctly", would be "the bane of a Space Marine player" or "the bane of an Eldar player"?

I also think that Ork spacecraft should be added to the list of concerns that need further examination. Does anyone use them competitively? They seem like total garbage to me.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:49 am 
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I'd really like to see an ork playtest list put together similar to how the space marine list is handled and i cant see how it could possibly hurt. Visit some of the options already mentioned.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:03 pm 
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Hmm yes, I should get around to doing that.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:02 pm 
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Almost a year later now. Any progress on a playtest list?

I noticed that the EpicUK list (which is in my opinion better for orkplayers with cheaper stompa mobs and powerfield oddboy available to battlefortresses) has a ratio of 28% wins, 40% losses and 32% Draws. If the goal is to have a 33% W/L/D ratio maybe theres room for some improvements for the list?

I*ve stated it before a few times but i still think Stompas should recieve a points drop to see them being used more. I think I've rated them pretty good in the Gargant list where they cost 200/350/500.

I also think both Gunfortresses and Battlefortresses could use a 10p price drop.

Easiest change would be to make the EpicUK list the NetEA list since the differences are so small and the EpicUK list is a better option for fielding a competitive ork force (but still having a 40% loss ratio!!).

I know that some people are very hesitant to change old lists that has been approved for a long time. But If there is issues which makes the list less competitive i think we really should try and fix them. The loss ratio alone should be evidence enough to warrant some changes!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:41 pm 
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actually the EUK results are probably a bit skewed due to the fact several of the top players (Steve54, dptdexys, RichardL) have never used ork armies in a UK tournament, and Tiny-Tim tends to use his ferals or speed freaks (please correct me if I'm wrong Tim!)

also if you look at the stats, the EUK steel legion have a 40% loss ratio and codex marines are at 39% so it's not always the most reliable metric ;)

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