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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:32 am 
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What is the best list to cover traitor Guard? Initial guess would be Lost & Damned but with redux removing Guard elements completely, it looks like a bad bet.
Points are also a bit off regarding Guard'ish Upgrades (eg. 35pts per Griffon not 50 per squad of three) with LaD.

Basically I would like to play Guard + Daemons - Things + allied Chaos Marines. Any ideas? Open to any army pack (NetEA, E-UK, E-FR,..)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:31 am 
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Vraks Traitors would seem to tick all your boxes

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 Post subject: Re: Best list to cover traitor Guard
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in addition I've heard rumours of EpicUK working on a traitor guard list, but nothing concrete has appeared as far as I'm aware

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 Post subject: Re: Best list to cover traitor Guard
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:38 am 
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The original LatD is still an option for including guards elements as well. I still think the 1:1 ratio makes even Guards elements restricted. I think you could squeeze in 5 support formations, but you would want at least 3-4 of them to be scouts and aircraft.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:39 pm 
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The Alpha Legion I'm working on has a bit of what you're looking for.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:45 pm 
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Vraks Traitors 1.06 has no Daemons and is basically Guard on steroids. (Boohoo I am missing shadowswords, luckily I have Leman Russ look a likes which can garrisson and all those ini 1+ units)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:00 pm 
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The Malcadors have their downsides, too. :-)

No Daemons, though, as ye say.

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If Vraks had limited daemons (maybe just a teleporting daemon formation in the 1/3 Allies section, to skip the summoning rules) it would be the perfect traitor guard list.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:22 pm 
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Largo_W wrote:
Vraks Traitors 1.06 has no Daemons and is basically Guard on steroids. (Boohoo I am missing shadowswords, luckily I have Leman Russ look a likes which can garrisson and all those ini 1+ units)


Not getting "guards on steroids" is part of the challenge when making Traitor Guard.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:24 pm 
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If Vraks had limited daemons (maybe just a teleporting daemon formation in the 1/3 Allies section, to skip the summoning rules) it would be the perfect traitor guard list.


I did write this army list once, which has that, more or less.

Never published it... UNTIL NOW! (dum dum daaaah)



- S'got a special rule the makes retaining the initiative harder (purged officer class) to stop it becoming UltraGuard
- Has a scattering of Chaos assets in the Allies section (including Aircraft, Daemons and Alpha Legion, which is also the only Supreme Commander available to the army)
- Chaos Psykers acting as locus for the Daemonic Pacts (4 in a normal 3k game), meaning you can actually kill off the Daemonic Pact summoning ability if you can kill the Psyker unit(s)
- Armoured Fist Company as a support formation rather than Core.
- No SHT's.
- Did I mention Chaos Psykers?! They're cool!


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Evil and Chaos wrote:
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If Vraks had limited daemons (maybe just a teleporting daemon formation in the 1/3 Allies section, to skip the summoning rules) it would be the perfect traitor guard list.


I did write this army list once, which has that, more or less.

Never published it... UNTIL NOW! (dum dum daaaah)


Looks really cool!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:22 pm 
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Largo_W wrote:
Hey guys,

What is the best list to cover traitor Guard? Initial guess would be Lost & Damned but with redux removing Guard elements completely, it looks like a bad bet.
Points are also a bit off regarding Guard'ish Upgrades (eg. 35pts per Griffon not 50 per squad of three) with LaD



Griffin upgrade isn't as off as you'd think, one Griffin for 35pts is pretty good value as you can add it to a Coven, Garrison out of LoS and fire AP5 AT5 indirect barrage from T1; 235pts and a core choice!

Granted, the cost of any more than one Griffin used in any other fashion other than what's described is ludicrous!


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Yes, those are pretty good …

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A straight and simple traitor army. I like it! :)


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