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Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.
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Author:  Matty_C [ Sun May 14, 2017 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

Ha ha oops!
Yes, 1-3 additional platoons for the infantry company. Not 2-3.

Author:  junkstar [ Fri May 19, 2017 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

No sky killer batteries and/or Hydras for tank coys?

Author:  Andrew_NZ [ Sat May 20, 2017 12:52 pm ]
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The Praetor Sky-KIller is one of the platoon options you can include in a Hvy Tank Company (or in Hvy Mech Infantry Companies). Hydras, not being WarEngines, can be selected as a target independently and so can be sniped out of an otherwise all WE formation. Having several small AA formations with the firepower of the Sky-Killers can be somewhat overpowered, unless the points go so high that you can't really afford to take them.

Think that summarises my thinking. Matt_C will doubtless have his views too.

Author:  junkstar [ Sat May 20, 2017 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

Andrew_NZ wrote:
The Praetor Sky-KIller is one of the platoon options you can include in a Hvy Tank Company (or in Hvy Mech Infantry Companies). Hydras, not being WarEngines, can be selected as a target independently and so can be sniped out of an otherwise all WE formation. Having several small AA formations with the firepower of the Sky-Killers can be somewhat overpowered, unless the points go so high that you can't really afford to take them.

Think that summarises my thinking. Matt_C will doubtless have his views too.


If hydra to the rear or centre of W/E their LoS will be blocked so cant be sniped, but would provide air cover. Besides hit allocation/damage stems front to rear so what would snipe it?

Author:  flyingthruwater [ Sat May 20, 2017 3:46 pm ]
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When shooting at a mixed AV/WE formation you can choose to target the AVs or the WEs

Author:  jimmyzimms [ Sat May 20, 2017 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

More important is the theme here methinks. This is a warengine and troops list

Author:  junkstar [ Sun May 21, 2017 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

flyingthruwater wrote:
When shooting at a mixed AV/WE formation you can choose to target the AVs or the WEs


Even if Los is blocked?

Author:  junkstar [ Sun May 21, 2017 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

jimmyzimms wrote:
More important is the theme here methinks. This is a warengine and troops list


not necessarily, you can swap crassus for chimera iirc

Author:  Andrew_NZ [ Sun May 21, 2017 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

junkstar wrote:
If hydra to the rear or centre of W/E their LoS will be blocked so cant be sniped, but would provide air cover. Besides hit allocation/damage stems front to rear so what would snipe it?

junkstar wrote:
Even if Los is blocked?

Yes that is certainly true. But the Hydra can still be targeted by an air attack because the WE does not block LOS in that case. And if the formation has a BM on it already then the Hydra is suppressed and can't provide AA cover.

But mostly I think it would look silly having armoured vehicles hiding up in contact with bigger armoured vehicles (war engines). Don't mind infantry doing it, . . . So for me this is mostly about theme.

junkstar wrote:
jimmyzimms wrote:
More important is the theme here methinks. This is a warengine and troops list

Not necessarily, you can swap crassus for chimera iirc


And I do see your point. Giving a formation of armoured vehicles without warengines - infantry in Chimeras or Leman Russ tank sqadrons - Hydras makes sense. So perhaps the Hydra upgrade option might go in as an alternative AA option for where there are no warengines in a formation.

Author:  jimmyzimms [ Sun May 21, 2017 11:48 pm ]
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junkstar wrote:
jimmyzimms wrote:
More important is the theme here methinks. This is a warengine and troops list


not necessarily, you can swap crassus for chimera iirc


Actually having been poking around with this list from the get go it was the original theme which has sadly IMHO been somewhat dilluted in recent revisions with Chimeras and what not.

Author:  Matty_C [ Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

Been on holiday chaps but:
Theme, has been somewhat diluted with the chimeras in. This was partly as a selfish excercise to use the variable company structure as a test bed. And partly because there is canon on the two together. Personally I don't mind having a few in the list, but I don't really feel that strongly either way to be honest.

I've toned the ground based AA right back as per Andrews comments above, plus others.

Author:  junkstar [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan-List. Heavy Mechanised IG.

Hellhounds cost 100 in other list, surely the upgraded vehicles would incur the cost?

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