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Imperial Fists V1.3 Approved!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:01 am 
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Thanks, Kyuss! Wanted to exploit it for good :)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:02 pm 
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I'd strongly suggest that we (in EA in general) give an area for defensive terrain like razorwire and minefields and whatnot and the player can model it in whatever configuration they desire.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:26 am 
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That would be advisable indeed.

Maybe create an appendix added to the tournament pack that handles all the rules coming with them homogenized to suit all factions.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:51 pm 
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They're not shared though. For instance this list has different effects for being in trenches than say DKoK.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:58 pm 
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jimmyzimms wrote:
They're not shared though. For instance this list has different effects for being in trenches than say DKoK.


exactly. but geometric layout and basic effects should be homogenized. different effect of used should be special ruls for each list separately


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:13 am 
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Another 3 question:

1. Does landing in a minefield trigger a dangerous terrain test (from my point of view yes as it is an approach move, but want to have it confirmed )

2. In said minnefield:
A. Does disembarking trigger a test on the disembarked (as it would trigger overwatch fire) even if the landing craft disembarked the troops outside the minefield? Because actually they would have to move away from the craft in order to reach their disembarking location.
B. Does the engage then trigger a second test after disembarking (if disembarked into the field)
C. How would A. apply to troops with jumpbacks?

3. Does teleporting into a minefield trigger the minefield? As you would not know whether you teleport on a mine or not.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:57 am 
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1. Yes, just as you'd take a DTT for landing in other terrain

2. A - only if the troops disembark into the minefield directly
B - no, troops are placed within 5/15cm of the aircraft, they dont disembark then move into engagements, if they disembarked outside the minefield no test, if they landed in the minefield, they need to test
C - no, it can be assumed that some kind of techno handwavium disables mines in the immediate vicinity

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:46 pm 
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Ok. Thanks.

Consolidation after an engagement would then trigger normally.

Does moving cautiously apply for the special nature of a minefield? Can a consolidation move be made cautiously, as it would not impair any reduction to the move? Is thereby a consolidation move always considered as cautious? What about eldar?

Sorry for going all overboard with the questions. But in the case of minefields and their best use this all crosses my mind when considering different kinds of how to conduct engagements

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:58 am 
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Most people in my games play that any 'move' from A to B can be made cautiously, hence consolidations can. Eldar are a good example of why this makes sense - if they move cautiously their move is reduced to 5cm.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:48 pm 
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Kyrt wrote:
Most people in my games play that any 'move' from A to B can be made cautiously, hence consolidations can. Eldar are a good example of why this makes sense - if they move cautiously their move is reduced to 5cm.


Exactly my point: it is only eldar and dark eldar that would suffer during a consolidation move made cautiously. The other races would not as they are limited to 5cm anyways. So that sits somewhat at odds. But I think this simply has to be accepted and in any case does not really belong here.


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Is the siege dreadnoughts heavy flamer considered as an extra attack in ff? Asking because the stats could be misread like that since the heavy flamer adds a second time a small arms ic entry in addition to the flamestorm cannon small arms ic entry. Or should it have that extra attack?


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Just a single attack

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