Login |  Register |  FAQ
   
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?

 Post subject: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:38 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:54 am
Posts: 596
Location: Sydney, Australia
I've recently read the FoW rules, and I really liked them—not as deep as E:A, say, but certainly a big step up from the WH40K rules.

The WW2 setting doesn't grab me like 40K, though, so I'm wondering...and I realise this may be sacreligeous...but has anyone tried converting a 40K Codex for use in FoW? :)


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:29 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm
Posts: 36604
Location: Ohio - USA
IMO ... it's sacrelige to play 40K in any form ... :D ;D ;) ::)

_________________
Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:20 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20862
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
Legion 4 wrote:
IMO ... it's sacrelige to play 40K in any form ... :D ;D ;) ::)

heh.

I think it could be done, but I've not heard of it having been done...

_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:40 pm 
Swarm Tyrant
Swarm Tyrant
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:22 pm
Posts: 9215
Location: Singapore
I cant believe that this has not been at least attempted.... this kind of thing usually hides out in the Yahoo Groups. Have you checked there?

_________________
http://cybershadow.ninja - My Hobby Blog
http://www.tacticalwargames.net/blogs/cybershadow - A brief look into my twisted world, including wargames and beyond.
http://www.net-armageddon.org - The official NetEA (Epic Armageddon) site and resource.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:37 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:54 am
Posts: 596
Location: Sydney, Australia
I've googled 'til my fingers bled...nothing.

I found it similarly hard to believe no one had tried it, though, and I was kinda hoping someone here would have an answer for me. :)


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:06 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm
Posts: 36604
Location: Ohio - USA
Servers you right for trying to play 40k in any form !!!!!!!!!! ;D ;)

_________________
Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:47 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:01 pm
Posts: 2517
Location: California
GR00V3R wrote:
I've googled 'til my fingers bled...nothing.

I found it similarly hard to believe no one had tried it, though, and I was kinda hoping someone here would have an answer for me. :)

Did you get blood on the keyboard? Be careful you might summon a Daemon. =)


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:42 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:04 pm
Posts: 901
Location: New Haven, CT
Crossfire might be a nice way of using GW40k figures, particularly if you have a lot of terrain.

http://crossfire.wargaming.info/

From the intro:
Quote:
At Historicon in 1995 a friend challenged me to design a historical miniatures wargame that lacked two features present in most rulesets: rulers and fixed game turns. The result is Crossfire - a fast-paced simulation of shifting tactical initiative, where the action unfolds like a film highlighting the critical events of a battle. Crossfire offers the player dozens of critical decisions to make every game, and each one may decide the battle.

Crossfire focuses on company-level, infantry operations by stressing three interrelated features: movement, firepower, and terrain. It assumes the tabletop action is occurring well within the effective ranges of WW-II small arms. By stressing these fundamentals, player commanders in Crossfire are encouraged to use covered terrain routes for troop movements, and establish fire bases that both support their own movements and interdict those of the enemy. Variable troop quality and national command & control differences modify these fundamentals. These conflicting tactical concerns will challenge the best gamers in our hobby. And because these concerns were paramount in the minds of real commanders, I believe Crossfire also succeeds as a simulation, in spite of its abstractions.

We have included a Scenario Generation system which enables gamers to simulate typical combat problems with an infinite number of outcomes; tournaments may be played with this method. One specific scenario has been added showing how to design games based on historical actions. We will be releasing a book of such scenarios in the future.

The average Crossfire game can be played quickly with about 40, 15mm or 20mm figures on a side and perhaps a vehicle or two, and the game works equally well at any figure scale. Rebasing is not required.


There's a pretty comprehensive review at
http://crossfire.wargaming.info/review.htm
I can promise you it'd be a novel experience.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:38 am 
Purestrain
Purestrain

Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:32 am
Posts: 2933
Location: Colorado, USA
Being familar with the FOW rules the hardest thing to mimic would be the infantry armor.

I imagine that infantry in heavy enough armor could be considered in bullet proof cover. This would require the weapon to pass a fire power test to kill the stand.

This would make Marines, for example, almost immune to rifle and light artillery fire. Is that accurate for power armor?

Also, the fire power test is required or it isn't. There is no distinction between 6+, 5+, or 4+ types of armor.

I guess one can modify the firepower test based on armor type but that is another level of complexity.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:17 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:54 am
Posts: 596
Location: Sydney, Australia
Yeah, that same thought occurred to me. I was thinking you'd just treat Power Armoured troopers as light vehicles. For Terminators, maybe you would need to fail the test twice to kill the unit, or even treat it as heavy armour?

Obviously, the points cost would need to be commensurate with something so totally bad-ass, so you'd probably end up with a ratio of 1 Space Marine to every 10 normal humans, or 1 Terminator to every 20 normals...but, then again, I've always thought the WH40K rules failed precisely because the Marines-to-Humans ratio _wasn't_ in the order of 1:10. In that context, treating Marines as you would light vehicles makes perfect sense. :)

What do you think? Could it work?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:20 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20862
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
Treating 1 Marine on a base as equivilent to a standard 5-6 man squad on a base would be a good start, then!

_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:22 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:07 am
Posts: 888
Location: Gulf Coast, Texas
Actually, i'd like to play Epic with FOW minis :)

_________________


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:03 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:54 am
Posts: 596
Location: Sydney, Australia
There are Epic rules for WW2 units around the traps. Haven't tried them yet, but they look pretty reasonable.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:55 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:07 am
Posts: 888
Location: Gulf Coast, Texas
I've seen them, hardly any commands for Germans and US. Plus they do not accurately reflect the units IMHO.

_________________


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sacrelige: 40K Using Flames of War Rules?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:55 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:53 am
Posts: 1
Guard, Lost and Damned and Orks would be easy. IG are bog standard human infantry like everything in FoW. Orks would IMO be fearless conscript with the russian 'quality of quantity' rule, mainly short ranged weapons and hit on 3+ in assault. L&D would be somewhere in between.

Marines are a bit harder. How about these special rules:
'Superhumans': All Space marines are based individually on a small base.
'Power armour': Requires firepower test to kill.
'And they shall know no fear': Re-roll failed morale tests.
'Mission tactics'
'Tactical Dreadnaught armour': Terminators counts as vehicles with armour value 0/0/0, 'Very slow' and 'Battlesuit'.

General special rule: 'Battlesuit': Vehicles with this rule may assault other vehicles and may NOT be bailed out.
'Skimmer': Auto-pass bog down tests.

As for the saves, I'd say that 6+ should be standard infantry, possibly 5+ as well. 4+ could have an extra 6+ save against weapons with FP 6. Above that we're talking .50 machineguns-20mm cannon which I'd consider AP4 in 40K terms.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB ® Forum Software © phpBB Group
CoDFaction Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net