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Epic Ghazgkhull Horde - Epic UK list change ideas

 Post subject: Epic Ghazgkhull Horde - Epic UK list change ideas
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:53 am 
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1. Skorcha's save reduced to 6+ (they have vulnerable fuel tanks on them - boom!).
2. Battlewagons reduced to 25 points (35 points is ridiculous).
3. Zzap guns reduced to 45cm range (makes Soopaguns more viable and helps Gunwagons).
4. Remove the additional Deth Koptas/Flakwagons/Gunwagons for +35 points. Replace with additional Gunwagons only for +25.
5. Reduce Deth Koptas save to 5+ and make additional Koptas for the Kults of speed at +25 points.
6. Reduce the Great Gargant from 850 to 825 points.
7. Make Big Guns 100 points for 4 Guns

Thanks :)


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 Post subject: Re: Epic Ghazgkhull Horde - Epic UK list change ideas
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:14 am 
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Sample new list:

MEKBOY GUNMOB [100]
4 Big Gunz

BLITZ BRIGADE [250]
Oddboy - Zzap gun, 2 Gunwagon, 3 Flakwagon

WARBAND [325]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 5 Battlewagon

WARBAND [200]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz

KULT OF SPEED [225]
3 Buggy, 3 Skorcha, 2 Warbike, 1 Deth Kopta

STORMBOYZ [150]
6 Stormboyz

STORMBOYZ WARHORDE [150]
6 Commandos

FIGHTA SQUADRON [150]
3 Fighta Bomba

KULT OF SPEED (BIG) [375]
6 Buggy, 5 Skorcha, 5 Warbikes, 1 Deth Kopta

BLITZ BRIGADE [250]
Oddboy - Soopagun, 3 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon

GREAT GARGANT [825]


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 Post subject: Re: Epic Ghazgkhull Horde - Epic UK list change ideas
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:46 am 
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Just to note, you can already have Deth Kopta's in Kults of speed. You can also have gun and flakwagons (although no-one ever does) Not sure i'd be that keen on paying 35pts for a light vehicle with a 5+ save though, they're already as rare as hens teeth on the table and that wouldn't be helping change that!

I'd certainly agree with the battlewagon reduction though, the biggest problem for them at the moment is that a battlefortress is just a better pick should you want a mounted mob, as it's both cheaper and you can give it power fields with an oddboy.


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 Post subject: Re: Epic Ghazgkhull Horde - Epic UK list change ideas
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:50 am 
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Good point that I need to expand the Deth Koptas description above, especially to make them +25 points (I was more thinking of having them in the core units as in the sample list above, but you are right that they need to make some kind of sense as additional units too). I will amend the above OP accordingly.


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 Post subject: Re: Epic Ghazgkhull Horde - Epic UK list change ideas
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:46 pm 
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I thought a Battlewagon could only carry 2 ork and 1 grot stand? So you need 4 to cart around a base mob?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:52 pm 
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Decided that Deth Koptas if in core Kult units would disincentivise buggies, so have amended the above OP and tweaked the sample list.


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 Post subject: Re: Epic Ghazgkhull Horde - Epic UK list change ideas
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:56 pm 
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The above needs playtesting!


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 Post subject: Re: Epic Ghazgkhull Horde - Epic UK list change ideas
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:00 pm 
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flyingthruwater wrote:
I thought a Battlewagon could only carry 2 ork and 1 grot stand? So you need 4 to cart around a base mob?

Good spot - amended!


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