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Fanlist: Eldar Corsairs v0.1

 Post subject: Fanlist: Eldar Corsairs v0.1
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:22 pm 
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apologies to anyone who may have written a corsairs list previously, but I couldn't seem to find one

this list came about as I was pondering the best way to get to paint some awesome corsairs colour schemes AND keep my mymeara force which I'm actually happy with...

Basing the army heavily on the list in IA11, I was thinking of something along these lines:

Core:

-Corsairs (these would be the 'tactical marines' of the eldar, similar to guardians but with better CC (5+) and a missile launcher, either with jump packs or falcons/venoms as transport, may have a single firestorm )

-Voidstorm squads - these are assault specialists who carry lots of fusion guns and meltabombs (MW?) but tend to be low in number

Special: (2 per corsair warband)

-Jetbikes/vypers
-Hornets
-Falcons (smaller formations (3/4?), more limited access to firestorms, may upgrade a falcon to a warp hunter)
-Rangers
-Wasps (jump pack war-walker units which can be transported in vampires)

Rare: (1 per every 2 corsair warbands)

-0-1 Harlequin troupe (stats from grand masque list, good few options, max one per army)
-0-1 DE Kabal (stats from DE list, lots of options, max one per army)
-0-1 Lynx formation

Aircraft:

-Nightwings (possibly 2 with the option to add a third)
-Phoenix Bombers (possibly a corsair variant with int1+ /different weapon loadouts)
-Vampire Hunter
-Vampire Raider
-1+ Spacecraft (are there specific 'corsair' craft, can the BFG players advise?)

Characters:

-Corsair Prince (the usual, supcom, inv save, inspiring etc)
-Void Dreamer (farseer equivalent, lose farsight, but gain MW FF, rune armour (4+ and inv save))
-Felarch (leader, CC MW EA)

Army wide rules

Corsairs may use the 'hit and run' rule from the main eldar list
They may also use the 'fleet of foot' rule from the dark eldar codex

I'll get it formatted into a proper list with suggested stats over the next week or so, I see it playing like dark eldar, but perhaps even more fragile, fewer transport vehicles which means units will tend to be inherently quick, yet very fragile if not making good use of cover, smaller vehicle formations mean you can have a decent punch but must be careful with them, and the many air choices are quite thematic from a fluff POV, I'd also say a spaceship should be a mandatory choice

anyone have any thoughts?

Edit: I finally got it formatted into a list which I have attached for your perusal, looking at the harlequin stats, that list seems a bit mental, but I've added the options, however it may get toned down for this specific list, I've borrowed stats from all over the place and a made a few up, some units may be too potent, some too weak, please let me know your thoughts on this

Edit 2: I messed with the formatting to make the list more readable, new version attached


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 Post subject: Re: Fanlist: Eldar Corsairs
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:55 pm 
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-1+ Spacecraft (are there specific 'corsair' craft, can the BFG players advise?)

The main elder fleetlist for Battlefleet Gothic is the Corsair fleetlist - with an addon for craftworld ships.

Cruisers are generally Eclipse (carrier) and Aurora (gunship) with escorts being Hellebores (mixed) Aconites (gun batteries), Hemlocks (torpedos), and Nigthshades (Pulsar lances)

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 Post subject: Re: Fanlist: Eldar Corsairs
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:05 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:45 pm 
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I've been doing the same thing myself the last few months. You are more experienced than I so I'll pm you with my files and you can tell me what you think. It would be good to get a semi-official list going.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:04 pm 
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Something along these lines

HQs
1 Corsair Prince 100pts
0-1 Void Dreamer 75pts

1+ Coteries
1 Corsair Baron 50pts (attach to any Infantry unit)

1-3 Core Bands
Corsair Reaver Band 200pts
Felarch + 6 Corsair Reaver squads
Upgrades: Corsair Jet Pack or Transport

Ghost Walker Band 125pts
4 Ghost Walker squads
Upgrades: Corsair Jet Pack or Transport?, Snipers

Cloud Dancer Band 250pts
Felarch + 6 Cloud Dancer squads

Support Detachments (1 per core band)

Wasp Squadron 225pts
6 Wasps

0-1 Void Storm Band 125pts
4 Void Storm squads

Malevolent Band 125pts
4 Malevolent squads

Hornet Squadron 225pts
5 Hornets

Vyper Squadron 200pts
6 Vypers

Heavy Support (max 1 per Coterie)

0-1 Balestrike Band
Felarch + 4 Balestrike squads

Lynx Troupe 150pts
1 Lynx

Warp Hunter Squadron 175pts
3 Warp Hunters

Fire Prism Squadron 250pts
3 Fire Prisms

Night Spinner Squadron 175pts
3 Night Spinners

Firestorm Squadron 175pts
3 Firestorms

Flyers and Spacecraft (max 1/3)

Nightwing Squadron 200pts
2 Nightwing Interceptors

Phoenix Squadron 225 pts
2 Phoenix Bombers

0-1 Corsair Vampire Raider 200pts

0-1 Corsair Eclipse 100pts

0-1 Corsair Void Dragon 200pts

Upgrades
Eldar Jet Packs 50pts (35cm move, Jump Pack, Teleport)
Transport - Venom 25pts each
- Falcon 50pts/unit


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:10 pm 
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Probably over egged some of the stats. Still a work in progress!

Corsair Prince
Void Sabre assault MW EA+1
Brace of Pistols sa (15cm) EA+1
Character, Farsight, Inspiring, Invulnerable Save (4+), Leader, Supreme Commander
Shadowfield (1)

Void Dreamer
Witch Staff Assault MW EA+1
Invulnerable Save (4+)
1 Reroll?
Character, Commander, Invulnerable Save, Farsight

Corsair Baron
Void Sabre assault MW EA+1
Brace of Pistols sa (15cm) EA+1
Character, Commander, Farsight, Inspiring, Invulnerable Save, Leader
Shadow Field (1)

Felarch
Power Weapon MW EA+1
Leader

Troops

Corsair Reaver Band
15cm/5+/5+/4+
Lasblasters: sa (15cm)
Fusion guns: 15cm MW 5+ and sa (15cm) MW
Flamers: sa (15cm), ignore cover
Upgrades: Jump Packs, Transport
Haywire Grenade Upgrade?

Corsair Ghost Walker Band
15cm/5+/5+/4+
Long Rifle 30cm AP5+ sniper FF5+
Brace of Pistols sa (15cm) EA+1
Flamer sa(15cm) Ignores Cover
Infiltrators, Scouts

Corsair Cloud Dancer Band 200pts
35cm/5+/5+/4+
TL Lasblasters: sa (15cm)
Brace of Pistols: sa (15cm) EA+1
Mounted, Scouts

Elites

Wasp Assault Walker Squadron
LV 35cm/6+/5+/5+
Star Cannon 30cm MW4+
Scatter Laser 30cm AP5+/AT5+
Kinetic Shroud
Invulnerable Save/Jump Pack/Reinforced Armour/Walker
Upgrades: Void Burners

Void Storm Bands
15cm/4+/4+/4+
Dissonance Pistol sa (15cm) disrupt
Power Weapon Assault MW EA+1
Upgrades: Jump Packs, Transport, Felarch (auto)

Malevolent Bands
15cm/5+/3+/5+
Brace of Pistols sa (15cm) EA+1
Fearless, Invulnerable Save
Upgrades: Jump Packs

Fast Attack

Hornet Squadron
LV 40cm/5+/6+/6+
Twin Linked Pulse Laser 45cm 2xAT3+
Invulnerable Save, Scouts, Skimmers, Teleport

Vyper Squadron
LV 35cm/5+/6+/5+
TL Lasblasters sa (15cm)
Shuriken Cannon 30cm AP5+
Scouts, Skimmers

Heavy Support

Balestrike Bands
15cm/5+/5+/3+
2x Shuriken Cannon 30cm AP5+
Upgrades: Jump Packs, Transport

Lynx
AV 35cm/5+/6+/5+
Revenant Pulse Laser 45cm 2xMW3+ FF arc
Shuriken Cannon 30cm AP5+
Skimmer
Upgrades: Kinetic Shroud (Invulnerable Save)

Warp Hunter
AV 35cm/5+/6+/4+
Warp Hunter D Cannon 30cm MW3+ Ignores Cover and sa (15cm) MW
Skimmer
Upgrades: Kinetic Shroud (Invulnerable Save)

Night Spinner 175pts
AV 35cm/5+/6+/5+
Doomweaver 45cm 1BP disrupt, indirect fire
Skimmer

Fire Prism
AV 35cm/5+/6+/5+
Fire Prism 75cm AP4+/AT4+/AA5+ lance
Skimmer

Fire Storm
AV 35cm/5+/6+/4+
Firestorm Battery 45cm 2xAP5+/AT5+/AT4+
Skimmer

Nightwing
AC Flyer/4+/na/na
Twin Shuriken Cannons 30cm AP4+/AA5+ FF arc
Twin Bright Lances 30cm AT4+/AT5+ lance, FF arc
Invulnerable Save

Phoenix Bomber
AC Flyer/5+/na/na
Twin Shuriken Cannons 30cm AP4+/AA5+ FF arc
Pulse Laser 45cm 2xAT4+ FF arc
Nightfire Missile Launcher 45cm 1BP disrupt, ignores cover FF arc
Invulnerable Save, Reinforced Armour

Corsair Vampire Raider
AC WE Flyer/5+/6+/4+
Scatter Laser 30cm AP5+/AT5+ FF arc
2x TL Pulse Lasers 45cm 2xAT3+ FF arc
Capacity 6 units of infantry
Or
Scatter Laser 30cm AP5+/AT5+/AT5+
2x Pulsar 75cm 2xMW2+
DC2 Capacity 4 units of Infantry
Invulnerable Save, Planetfall, Reinforced Armour, Transport 4-6 see above)


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 Post subject: Re: Fanlist: Eldar Corsairs
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:56 pm 
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Good starting points, some stats may be a little 'over egged' but that is almost certainly a design philisophy

I'd quite like to see the grav tanks rolled into a single flexible formation with a smaller footprint, in fact I'd quite like the entire army to be flexible as eldar corsairs are highly disorganised and moulded to the combat style of particular leaders

I'm mid-way through writing up my own list and reference sheet, will get it uploaded in the next few days and then we can argue amongst ourselves and knock it into some kind of sensible form

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:11 pm 
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Looks interesting. Happy to play this once you've got a draft list.

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interesting....wont promise I will get any testing done, since I would like to focus on the ulthwe and DE at the moment to get them approve...

Once you pop the PDF up, I will add it to the Eldar lists-APPROVED, DEVELOPMENTAL, EXPERIMENTAL or FANBASE thread...

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I have added Wasp Walkers and Vampire Hunters to the newest iteration of Fir Iolarion since it is from Craftworld Lugganath and famously friendly with Corsairs. So check those out. ^^

My feeling on Corsairs is that they should be halfway between the Craftworlders and the Dark-kin. Making them more fragile than the DE would be really hard to do. There's no where really to go down from LVs and no armor infantry.

2+ initiative with DE stat lines ought to get you there.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:54 pm 
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I've started a similar project which is more a 'modelling' project then a 'develop a new list' project. But I wanted to be able to use it at tournaments and pick up games so I've just taken the BT list (EA), put some limitations on myself and renamed units.

So units -

Corsair Prince - Autarch
Felarch - Exarch

Reaver - Dire Avenger
Jetpack Reaver - Swooping Hawk
Balestrike - Dark Reaper
Malevolent - Howling Banshee
Voidstorm - Fire Dragon
Cloud Dancer - Shining Spear
Ghostwalker - Ranger
Wasp Assault Walker - Warwalker

List is then just -

Corsair Coterie - Aspect Warhosts less Wave Serpent option

Ghostwalker Band - Ranger Troupe
Wasp Assault Squadron - Warwalker Troupe
Armoured Squadron - Swords of Vaul
Vyper Squadron - Jetbike Troupe with only Vypers
Night Spinner - Night Spinner Troupe

Nightwing, Phoenix, Vampire and Space Craft (Eclipse and Void Dragon)

That might be a place to start? I'm happy to email what I've done (army list and unit profile summary) if you'd like. Just PM me an email address.

I think adding a Void Dreamer Character, Vemons, Vampire Hunters and Warp Hunters would be cool. Wasp Assault Walkers with Jumpack that can fit in a Vampire Raider would be sweet too!

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 Post subject: Re: Fanlist: Eldar Corsairs v0.1
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:59 pm 
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Bump, added list document to the OP, have fun picking it apart :)

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I have add it to the Eldar lists-APPROVED, DEVELOPMENTAL, EXPERIMENTAL or FANBASE thread....

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