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Thinking about Knights....

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:00 pm 
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I've been thinking about putting together a knight force for a while, mostly because I like the little guys, but also because AMTL is a bit one dimensional and boring to play and really has no place to go without a massive overhaul of some core concepts. I think that Knights would help scratch the big stompy robots itch while still being fun to play.

I put together a bit of a list but I'm not sure what would be best to spend the remainder of the points on. I kind of think the AA emplacements sound good and could garrison which is nice, but I also like the idea of having a howitzer detachment. However, I'm leaning toward 2x tbolts because I think that would provide the best AA overall.

My plan is to use the crusaders and two paladin detachments as fire support while the lancers and errants do most of the killing.

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Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Knight World (NetEA v2.2.2 *APPROVED*)
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KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [505]
5 Knight Paladin, Seneschal

KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [555]
Seneschal, 5 Knight Errant

KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [590]
4 Knight Paladin, Baron

LANCER HOUSEHOLD [325]
3 Knight Lancer, Seneschal

LANCER HOUSEHOLD [325]
3 Knight Lancer, Seneschal

CUSTODIAN HOUSEHOLD [400]
3 Knight Crusader, Seneschal

ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150]
6 Rough Riders

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighters


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking about Knights....
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:28 pm 
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In the games I've played 3-Knight formations break way too easily. Except for Custodians, I always field formations of at least 4 Knights. I like the idea of having non-Knight formations, especially howitzers and AA in emplacements, but I've have better success fielding just Knights and Thunderbolts.

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking about Knights....
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:24 pm 
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So drop the paladins to 4's and up the lancers to 4's and take tbolts?

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That's what I would do.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:17 pm 
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My opinion is that your Activation count is a bit low as well, makes you open to crossfire and you being engaged instead of the other way around.

The list I just took to a local tourney here in Aus was :

Incompertus, 2995 POINTS
Knight World (NetEA v2.2.2 *APPROVED*)
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KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [530]
Baron, 3 Knight Errant

KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [455]
4 Knight Errant, Seneschal

KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [330]
3 Knight Errant

KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [330]
3 Knight Errant

CUSTODIAN HOUSEHOLD [375]
3 Knight Crusader

CUSTODIAN HOUSEHOLD [375]
3 Knight Crusader

ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150]
6 Rough Riders

ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150]
6 Rough Riders

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighters

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighters


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking about Knights....
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Mard, did you find that the seneschels weren't that useful on your formations and did the three unit formations break too easily on you?

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This is a list i would run. The BTS guards the blitz/backfield together with one of the AA-formations. Garrison both lancers far up the board.
Then assault, assault, assault!


Incompertus, 2965 POINTS
Knight World (NetEA v2.2.2 *APPROVED*)
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KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [500]
3 Knight Paladin, Baron

KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [455]
4 Knight Errant, Seneschal

KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [455]
4 Knight Errant, Seneschal

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighters

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighters

AA GUN BATTERY [125]
3 AA Guns, 3 Gun Transporters

AA GUN BATTERY [125]
3 AA Guns, 3 Gun Transporters

LANCER HOUSEHOLD [415]
4 Knight Lancer, Seneschal

LANCER HOUSEHOLD [415]
4 Knight Lancer, Seneschal

ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [175]
6 Rough Riders, Aspirant

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How do you garrison the lancers? They are WE and well over the speed limit for garrisoned formations.

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They are scouts, no?

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Ya, more than half of the formation is scouts.

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Ah, I missed that Lancers had scout. That's pretty cool then.

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Here's the list I used for the most recent NEAT and went 3-0 with it:

3000 pts:

Knight Household 530
3 Errants + Baron

Knight Household 415
4 Paladins + Seneschal

Knight Household 455
4 Errants + Seneschal

Knight Household
4 Lancers + Senschal 415

Custodian Household 375
2 Crusaders, 1 Castellan

Warden Household 360
3 w/AA + Multilasers
1 w/Wanquisher

T'bolts 150

T'bolts 150

T'bolts 150

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I'm noticing you guys have a lot of AA in these lists, do you face a lot of air in your games? For me I don't know that I'd need more than two tbolts tops.

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Are you going Slaanesh with this and do I really want to know what variant of knight this is?

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Vaaish wrote:
I'm noticing you guys have a lot of AA in these lists, do you face a lot of air in your games? For me I don't know that I'd need more than two tbolts tops.


The AA provides cheap activations as well as AA in a list that tends to build to a lower activation count. AA battery is the cheapest activation in the list, Tbolts are cheap and generally useful.

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Heavy air is pretty common in the New England circle. The Coach is the only one who seems not to bother with air or AA.

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