primarch wrote:

Mattman wrote:

...A lot of the issues with NetEpic and 2nd Ed come back to the points system, a lot of things are either over or undercosted which means certain units miss out.

Hi!

The point system IS the problem. It just doesn't work. Which is why any variant version of epic needs one done in the same vein Magnus did the one for Gold.

My top lists of offenders are:

1) ranges

2) point system

3) movement range

I think any version should address those and the rest takes care of itself.

Primarch

Er, wait, what?

The Points Formula was built specifically to be used with both Gold AND Platinum. Unless Platinum is changing the base stats that models have or how they work in the game (which I was under the impression that it was not doing) then the existing formula *should* work fine for Platinum as well. It has in fact already been applied to an early version of Marines for Platinum and had a few tweaks made to deal with issues that came up therein.

It was also my understanding that Platinum was going to exclusively use the Points Formula and NOT have arbitrarily set values for formations to avoid exactly the problems described above. Therefore, at least in regards to Platinum, there is no "points system" that is a problem because the Points Formula is the solution.

So to address Primarch's offenders:

1) Presumably you mean Weapon Ranges. If a weapon's range is wrong, change it. It's value in the formula will change in proportion. I built the costs for Weapon Range specifically to allow for more granularity than is currently used in NetEpic, so this should not be a problem. The Points Formula somewhat assumes minimum increments of 5cm, but one can always go further if you don't mind more math. I would not recommend going deeper than 1cm just for measuring issues.

2) The Points Formula solves this.

3) Again, the Points Formula allows for more granularity than is currently used, so this should not be an issue either, aside from the issue of changing model stats that players like. As above for minimum increments.

In other words, I'm confused as to why this is being discussed. The Points Formula was to be used for Platinum, thus saying that any "points system" for Platinum is a problem is very confusing.